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Jake "The Snake" Roberts is
one of the most authentic
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personalities the wrestling
world has ever seen.
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I'll drop you so
fast with that DDT,
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your whole family'll fall down.
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(cheering)
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He's done it!
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Behind his raw intensity lies
a depth of personal trauma,
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which has shaped his
iconic in-ring persona.
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How could anything that
looks so hot be so cold?
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Well, it's easy, you see,
time has done that to me.
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Unknown to fans for years,
wrestlers Sam Houston and
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Rockin' Robin are
Jake "The Snake's"
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real life brother and sister.
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Each followed in the
footsteps of their father,
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wrestling giant, Grizzly Smith.
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The control that
Grizz had over his kids,
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he could pit 'em all against
each other because
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he was a master of everything.
He was a puppeteer.
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Scarred by traumatic childhoods,
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the Smith children followed
self-destructive paths,
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and each battled addictions
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that nearly destroyed
their lives.
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You know how hard it is to
put a smile on your face
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when you know what a piece
of shit you really are?
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I'd been to prison two days
and I tried to hang myself.
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It's the very, very young girls,
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that seems to be the trigger.
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And, I was scared of him,
just totally scared of him.
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This is Jo Lynn here.
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Without a body,
they can't file murder.
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Decades later, the Smith
family finally face their
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haunted past in order to
survive beyond the ring.
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Lies have consequences.
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If you want to feel pain,
then you have to go
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from the top and get
knocked to the bottom.
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That's when you feel real pain.
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None of us wants to
talk about what happened.
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It's too painful.
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There's just too damn much...
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that gets drug out.
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There was just no relationship.
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There was no pat each
other on the back shit.
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There was no,
"I'm happy for you."
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You would've never
thought we were
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brothers and sisters,
that's for sure.
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'Cause we were always that way.
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We had just been kind
of raised at a distance.
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Since the formulation of
professional wrestling as
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an organized sport,
it's been a family business
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to a lot of the participants.
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There's been a lot of
well-known wrestling families,
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like the
Hart family from Calgary,
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the Von Erich's from Texas.
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You could trust family members
with the business secrets
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and the secrets in the ring
because they were your blood.
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And also, they had a vested
interest in the success of
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the industry because it was
their livelihood as well.
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I'm Jim Cornette.
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For over 40 years,
I've been a part of
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professional wrestling as an
announcer, manager, promoter.
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But also, I've been a
student of professional
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wrestling history
for over 50 years.
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Even though the Smith
family was all related,
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the people inside
the industry knew that,
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but to the fans, Jake Roberts,
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Sam Houston, Rockin' Robin,
Grizzly Smith,
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were all different people.
There was no knowledge,
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publicly, that they
were related.
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You know, in all honesty,
Sam Houston was the best
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in-ring performer of
the entire family.
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My name's Michael Smith, aka,
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Sam Houston.
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How I fit into the Smith family,
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I'm one of 'em.
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Depending on who you look at,
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I mean, I'm somebody's father,
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I'm somebody's son,
I'm somebody's brother.
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Through our family,
first, Jake's the oldest,
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then Richard, then myself,
and then Robin.
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Robin's one of the best
women's world champions,
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you know, ever to
come down the line.
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And, she's my sister.
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It's an honor for me
to say that.
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- Wah!
- Oh! The bulldog!
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Many years ago, Rockin' Robin.
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- Rockin' Robin!
- (cheering)
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Actually, it was just
kind of a lazy thing.
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One of my first matches,
they said,
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"What do you want
to be announced as?"
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And I just said,
"Okay, Rockin' Robin."
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I think I would have liked to
have tried out Rotten Robin.
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I think that would
have been fun.
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I'm Robin Smith.
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And, for the Smith family,
I am the sister of
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Jake "The Snake" Roberts,
Sam Houston, and then
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I have another brother
that a lot of people
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don't know about, Richard.
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My name's Richard Nabors,
and Aurelian Smith is my father.
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And Jake Roberts is my brother.
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Sam Houston is my brother.
Robin Smith is my sister.
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It's Jake.
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This is Jake and myself.
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Jake "The Snake" Roberts
is his wrestling name.
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When he was growing
up in high school,
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my grandmother
called him Buster.
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That was his nickname.
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That kind of stuck
with him for years,
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but Jake's what he wrestles
by and what he goes by.
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I didn't want to
travel like that.
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It's not a lifestyle.
But Jake likes attention.
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He likes all the
stardom being on him.
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Please welcome Jake
"The Snake" Roberts.
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When he walks in
the room, I mean,
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it's like, you know,
he wants it all to be there.
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And that's from being in
the ring so many years.
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That's from being
in that business.
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It's just a rat race.
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It wasn't me.
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Jake Roberts, as a wrestler,
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had strengths and
had weaknesses.
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Jake Roberts was never a
high level amateur athlete.
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He didn't have a
ridiculous physique.
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But what Jake knew
and understood was the,
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the mental aspect
of pro wrestling,
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the psychology of it.
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By growing up with a
father in wrestling and by
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learning how to think of it,
and he had the verbal ability.
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Don't come calling
me a sicko because,
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brother, if you look at
yourself in the mirror
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I think you'll find
out one thing...
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You're no different than me,
if you tell yourself the truth.
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Jake "The Snake" Roberts,
once he fully developed
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that persona, was able to
make you believe
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that he really was a
snake in the grass.
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And there was
probably some truth to it.
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He was kind of dad's shadow,
in a way, I think.
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He, he spent as much time
as he could with dad and,
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maybe, I guess,
learning the ropes, you know.
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That's...
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dad and Jake.
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Jake "The Snake" Roberts here.
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Real name is Aurelian Smith Jr.
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Now you know why we went
Jake "The Snake".
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He didn't want me in
wrestling, period.
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In fact, he got me
fired a couple of places,
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asked the promoters to fire me.
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To get me out.
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I got humiliated,
I got stretched,
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I got tore up.
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Basically, crawled back
to the locker room and,
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my father looked at me and said,
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"I'm ashamed of you.
You're gutless and
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you'll never amount
to anything."
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Exactly what I wanted to hear.
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That was my whole drive.
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I got into wrestling
because I hated my father.
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And that was gonna
break it off in his ass.
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I wanted to hear my father say,
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"I'm proud of you, son.
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I'm really proud of you."
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You know, he never told me that.
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He'd tell other wrestlers
he was proud of 'em,
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but he wouldn't tell me.
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Never.
And that was my drive.
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He had worked in the oil fields.
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He met someone that had...
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knew about wrestling or was
involved in wrestling and,
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you know, saw this big,
humongous dude, you know...
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(laughs) And said,
"You'd probably be good."
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He would line up on Friday
afternoon where they all
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got paid outside the
railroad yard.
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And he would stand up
against the wall.
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And the guys would
pay him 25 to 50 cents.
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They would pay him if they
could just draw back and hit him
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in the stomach as hard
as they could because
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it was a bet to try to
make him double over.
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He would make more
money that afternoon,
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in an hour's time, than he
would the whole week.
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So, then he got
the wild hair and
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he wanted to get into wrestling.
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He was 7-foot tall.
About 350 pounds.
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Long red hair, big beard.
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He looked like he just
walked right out of the woods.
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He wore a pair of blue
jeans and had a rope.
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His sash cord,
that's what he called...
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That was his belt.
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If he could ever get a
hold of somebody and
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wrap his arms around 'em,
then that was it.
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(cheering)
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Wow, how'd it make me feel?
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Well, I was honored.
I mean, Superman was my dad.
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He's the main event.
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He, you know, he's the
biggest thing on the card,
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and he really was the
biggest thing on the card.
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I used to get really freaked out
when we'd go to the matches.
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And I'd be inside
the matches, watching him.
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He'd get his head
busted open or,
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you know, scratched.
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And he'd go to
bleeding and stuff.
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I'm 6, 7, 8 years old
and I would totally flip.
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So, dad'd get out of the
ring and I'd go back to the
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back with him and I'd
be crying my eyes out,
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and he'd go back
there and he'd sit down.
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And the doc'd
look at him and say,
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\{\an1}"Grizzly, I told you I can't do
anything else with your head,"
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because the skin, the
tissue was tore up so bad.
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They'd take it, clean him up,
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and put a butterfly
Band-Aid on it.
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"Okay, see you
tomorrow night."
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You know, and then he would
travel to the next town,
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and it was just
an ongoing thing.
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You know, I used to
think when I was a kid,
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I said, why does
he want to do that?
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And he'd tell me, "Son,
I gotta make a living."
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I think one of the things
that has helped me to
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understand life and to enjoy
life as much as I do...
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is my father.
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He would give you a
whipping for lying to him.
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He'd give you a whipping
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whenever he thought
you needed it.
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He'd give you a whipping
for making a mistake.
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[Jake] My father was a mean man.
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Mean in the way that he
tortured us, psychologically.
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He would play the
angle out at home.
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His injuries, his feeling
of the upcoming match.
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How dangerous this match was
gonna be with those guys.
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And, you know, I look
back now and I say,
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why didn't I figure it out?
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You know, they kept showing
up in the same territory
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my dad would go to,
every damn time.
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What the hell?
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These guys are chasing
my father down and
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they're gonna kill him!
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I remember crying myself
to sleep many a night,
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thinking my dad was gonna die.
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And that bastard
never told us anything.
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By the end of the 70s,
Grizzly Smith retires from
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wrestling in the ring and
transitions to a management
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position behind the scenes,
but he would use his power
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and influence for something
much more sinister.
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You know, I had been around
the business for a little while
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at that point, and
when I first got there and
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was in the locker room
hearing all the other people
248
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who had known Grizzly longer,
249
00:11:07,959 --> 00:11:10,896
been around him, talk about him,
250
00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,982
the wrestlers
always had a way of,
251
00:11:13,006 --> 00:11:16,235
of knocking or talking
behind the back of the
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authority figure or
the "office" personnel.
253
00:11:19,637 --> 00:11:21,740
But I'd never
heard it like this.
254
00:11:21,764 --> 00:11:24,952
Every joke
wherever Grizzly wasn't,
255
00:11:24,976 --> 00:11:27,621
every single little statement
had something to do with,
256
00:11:27,645 --> 00:11:30,249
"I wonder if Grizzly's
mentoring the young girls,"
257
00:11:30,273 --> 00:11:32,084
or, "he's probably got
one of them on his lap
258
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reading her Bible verses."
259
00:11:34,152 --> 00:11:36,672
And they would laugh and
they thought that was funny.
260
00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:38,132
I'm like, that...
261
00:11:38,156 --> 00:11:39,550
kind of strange.
262
00:11:39,574 --> 00:11:44,889
And I had no idea of the
back story that the family
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had that would come out in
years and decades later on.
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♪
265
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Everybody knew Grizz.
266
00:11:54,172 --> 00:11:56,984
Everybody had good
things to say about him.
267
00:11:57,008 --> 00:11:58,986
You wanted to do road trips
with him because
268
00:11:59,010 --> 00:12:00,738
you wanted to pick his
brain about, like,
269
00:12:00,762 --> 00:12:01,947
how could I make myself better?
270
00:12:01,971 --> 00:12:03,949
How do I make more money?
271
00:12:03,973 --> 00:12:05,534
My name is Nickla Roberts.
272
00:12:05,558 --> 00:12:08,329
I worked in the
wrestling profession.
273
00:12:08,353 --> 00:12:11,582
Look where Baby Doll is!
274
00:12:11,606 --> 00:12:13,626
My dad promoted
in Lubbock, Texas.
275
00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:15,794
Both of my
parents were wrestlers.
276
00:12:15,818 --> 00:12:20,299
But how I actually met and
got into the Smith family,
277
00:12:20,323 --> 00:12:23,260
I think this was
like April of '85.
278
00:12:23,284 --> 00:12:25,930
I kind of started talking
to Sam a little bit then.
279
00:12:25,954 --> 00:12:30,768
And, July 30th was the very
first day that we kissed.
280
00:12:30,792 --> 00:12:34,188
And we got married a
year to the day from there.
281
00:12:34,212 --> 00:12:36,398
Baby Doll is the
mother of my children.
282
00:12:36,422 --> 00:12:38,883
I love her immensely.
I always will.
283
00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:46,033
The craziest thing to go along
with the whole Grizzly Smith
284
00:12:46,057 --> 00:12:48,410
and, and the
weirdness of it was,
285
00:12:48,434 --> 00:12:51,413
to do a road trip with him, we
would like all of a sudden
286
00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:54,208
be like 50 miles off the road,
287
00:12:54,232 --> 00:12:57,294
picking up some 14,
15-year-old girl.
288
00:12:57,318 --> 00:13:00,130
Then she was gonna ride
with us for 3 to 4 days.
289
00:13:00,154 --> 00:13:02,091
And it was just like...
290
00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:06,053
you're gonna put... okay.
291
00:13:06,077 --> 00:13:08,263
And then her parents were
like waving on the front yard,
292
00:13:08,287 --> 00:13:11,392
like, "Bye,
see you on Tuesday."
293
00:13:11,416 --> 00:13:13,936
It was really weird
because it wasn't until
294
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,146
after his death that...
295
00:13:16,170 --> 00:13:18,107
you kind of start
finding out, you know,
296
00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:20,025
the whole whirlwind
of the stories and
297
00:13:20,049 --> 00:13:23,821
the whole just horrible stuff
that was going on.
298
00:13:23,845 --> 00:13:27,658
And, I was there and, and I...
299
00:13:27,682 --> 00:13:28,909
you kind of get
that feeling like,
300
00:13:28,933 --> 00:13:31,578
okay, something,
something's not quite right.
301
00:13:31,602 --> 00:13:33,872
And you look for it.
302
00:13:33,896 --> 00:13:35,791
I was right there
and I never saw it.
303
00:13:35,815 --> 00:13:38,651
♪
304
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Before embarking on a
career in the ring as
305
00:13:46,701 --> 00:13:50,639
Jake "The Snake" Roberts,
Aurelian Smith Jr. endures
306
00:13:50,663 --> 00:13:52,891
a traumatic childhood,
which would be
307
00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:56,103
a source of torment for
the rest of his life.
308
00:13:56,127 --> 00:13:58,981
Jake was a, a mean
son of a bitch
309
00:13:59,005 --> 00:14:02,192
that didn't care about nothing.
310
00:14:02,216 --> 00:14:05,654
And there's nothing that's
out of bounds with Jake.
311
00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:10,617
Aurelian,
completely different cat.
312
00:14:10,641 --> 00:14:13,287
Aurelian hasn't grown...
313
00:14:13,311 --> 00:14:15,706
since he was 12, 13 years old.
314
00:14:15,730 --> 00:14:19,043
I put him away a long time ago.
315
00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:22,921
I had to, 'cause
it hurt too much.
316
00:14:22,945 --> 00:14:27,301
I don't think I've been
Aurelian in 30 or 40 years.
317
00:14:27,325 --> 00:14:29,762
And I don't know that
I ever will be again.
318
00:14:29,786 --> 00:14:34,850
Aurelian feels it and
Aurelian remembers.
319
00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:39,146
And Aurelian's crippled and
can't do nothing about it.
320
00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:41,899
But I am more
comfortable with Jake now.
321
00:14:41,923 --> 00:14:43,567
I respect Jake.
322
00:14:43,591 --> 00:14:45,819
I know how dangerous
Jake can be.
323
00:14:45,843 --> 00:14:48,697
Jake's okay as long as you've
got him handcuffed, you know.
324
00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:51,158
You know, really, seriously.
325
00:14:51,182 --> 00:14:55,412
Aurelian though,
very scared kid.
326
00:14:55,436 --> 00:14:58,165
And again, I don't think
I've grown since
327
00:14:58,189 --> 00:15:01,085
I was probably 13.
328
00:15:01,109 --> 00:15:03,444
When most of that
stuff started happening.
329
00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:12,179
She was 13 when I was born.
330
00:15:12,203 --> 00:15:15,641
My father was a pedophile.
331
00:15:15,665 --> 00:15:19,728
Disgusting pedophile.
332
00:15:19,752 --> 00:15:24,066
Which would haunt me
the rest of my life.
333
00:15:24,090 --> 00:15:26,860
By the age of 17, then
he divorced my mother,
334
00:15:26,884 --> 00:15:29,863
and he left and
went on the road,
335
00:15:29,887 --> 00:15:32,491
leaving us all behind.
Kids got passed out.
336
00:15:32,515 --> 00:15:34,910
My little brother, Richard,
he was passed out to
337
00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:36,662
my dad's sister and her husband.
338
00:15:36,686 --> 00:15:38,205
They couldn't have children.
339
00:15:38,229 --> 00:15:40,582
My sister Jo Lynn was...
340
00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:42,292
she was tossed everywhere.
341
00:15:42,316 --> 00:15:43,961
She spent too much
time with my dad,
342
00:15:43,985 --> 00:15:46,171
if you know what I mean.
343
00:15:46,195 --> 00:15:48,882
My mother was blind
to a lot of this.
344
00:15:48,906 --> 00:15:51,135
I had a great mother,
wonderful mother.
345
00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:53,637
Loving mother.
346
00:15:53,661 --> 00:15:56,932
After his parents split up,
Jake lives an idyllic life
347
00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:59,726
with his grandmother until
she passes away when he is
348
00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:03,981
11 years old, forcing him to
move back in with his father
349
00:16:04,005 --> 00:16:06,441
and his new wife, Marsha.
350
00:16:06,465 --> 00:16:08,902
I thought it was gonna be
the greatest thing ever, man.
351
00:16:08,926 --> 00:16:13,323
This is gonna be so cool.
352
00:16:13,347 --> 00:16:17,578
Well... it wasn't cool.
353
00:16:17,602 --> 00:16:19,955
He was forced to
take me home with him.
354
00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:22,416
Shortly after I
moved in with him,
355
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,544
his wife started playing games.
356
00:16:25,568 --> 00:16:28,589
Sometimes games
that weren't so funny.
357
00:16:28,613 --> 00:16:30,299
Sexual games.
358
00:16:30,323 --> 00:16:31,842
I went...
359
00:16:31,866 --> 00:16:34,928
to my dad and told
on her one time.
360
00:16:34,952 --> 00:16:37,514
And...
361
00:16:37,538 --> 00:16:40,267
she stopped me right
in the middle of it,
362
00:16:40,291 --> 00:16:42,477
said, "I'll tend
to you later."
363
00:16:42,501 --> 00:16:43,979
And she went in,
talked to my dad,
364
00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:45,647
next thing I know,
she beat me with
365
00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:49,151
a damn clothes hanger
and fly swatter.
366
00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:50,986
It's one thing to have sex,
but it's another thing
367
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:53,780
to get beaten for doing it.
Freaked me out.
368
00:16:53,804 --> 00:16:56,783
Little did I know, my father
was aware of all that
369
00:16:56,807 --> 00:17:00,871
'cause he was doing the same
thing to my sisters.
370
00:17:00,895 --> 00:17:01,872
(cheering)
371
00:17:01,896 --> 00:17:05,375
First, I want to say this,
is that my intention
372
00:17:05,399 --> 00:17:08,712
is not to destroy a
legacy that was,
373
00:17:08,736 --> 00:17:11,506
you know, my dad was
great at what he did.
374
00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:13,675
He could be a hero.
375
00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:17,304
But, to me, he was my monster.
376
00:17:17,328 --> 00:17:20,474
♪
377
00:17:20,498 --> 00:17:24,394
I guess, just going back
to when it all started,
378
00:17:24,418 --> 00:17:27,564
I was probably 8 or 9 years old.
379
00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:32,569
And, the, the wild
thing about it was,
380
00:17:32,593 --> 00:17:37,783
was that I remember about
a month before
381
00:17:37,807 --> 00:17:41,703
the first thing
ever happened, he...
382
00:17:41,727 --> 00:17:43,914
he, basically, was working me.
383
00:17:43,938 --> 00:17:46,500
And this is part of
the manipulation that,
384
00:17:46,524 --> 00:17:50,420
that I think people...
385
00:17:50,444 --> 00:17:54,967
people do to kind of
groom you and, you know,
386
00:17:54,991 --> 00:17:57,594
get you where they
want you, basically.
387
00:17:57,618 --> 00:17:59,846
So, for about a month or so
before the first thing
388
00:17:59,870 --> 00:18:02,224
ever happened, he was
walking around,
389
00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:03,975
completely ignoring me.
390
00:18:03,999 --> 00:18:06,144
He couldn't stand to
be in the same room.
391
00:18:06,168 --> 00:18:08,647
You know, as an
8-year-old kid, I mean,
392
00:18:08,671 --> 00:18:10,774
you think, what in the
world have I done?
393
00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:13,860
All you want is the love
of your parents, right?
394
00:18:13,884 --> 00:18:16,863
Then one day, my,
my mother was gone,
395
00:18:16,887 --> 00:18:18,699
and he, he worked
during the day.
396
00:18:18,723 --> 00:18:22,160
He was home working in
the office in the back and,
397
00:18:22,184 --> 00:18:25,038
so he called me in the back,
and just to,
398
00:18:25,062 --> 00:18:27,165
just to say, "Well, you know,
399
00:18:27,189 --> 00:18:29,167
you know daddy
loves you," and...
400
00:18:29,191 --> 00:18:32,546
and, I mean, I was
so relieved that, you know,
401
00:18:32,570 --> 00:18:34,589
oh, he does love me.
402
00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:37,676
He doesn't hate me and
that turned into the
403
00:18:37,700 --> 00:18:40,095
first time he put
his hands on me.
404
00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,681
So... (clears throat)
405
00:18:42,705 --> 00:18:47,769
Ah, you come out of that
real confused and real...
406
00:18:47,793 --> 00:18:51,898
you know, had no idea
how to process that.
407
00:18:51,922 --> 00:18:53,525
I mean, you just don't.
408
00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:58,363
I think that very day it
strips you of your security.
409
00:18:58,387 --> 00:19:00,907
It strips you of
your self-worth,
410
00:19:00,931 --> 00:19:03,577
self-respect, innocence.
411
00:19:03,601 --> 00:19:05,620
It strips you of
all the things that,
412
00:19:05,644 --> 00:19:09,774
that make you a child.
It really does.
413
00:19:11,609 --> 00:19:18,633
I think from when I was
about 8 until about 14.
414
00:19:18,657 --> 00:19:20,385
I told my mother about it and
415
00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:22,804
she gathered up everything
and we left.
416
00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:27,017
At about 15, I actually
remember telling him that
417
00:19:27,041 --> 00:19:30,062
if he ever did anything again
that I would shoot him
418
00:19:30,086 --> 00:19:31,521
with his own gun.
419
00:19:31,545 --> 00:19:32,745
'Cause I knew where they were.
420
00:19:40,346 --> 00:19:42,949
All I can tell you
is that my mother was
421
00:19:42,973 --> 00:19:45,827
not the kind of person that
422
00:19:45,851 --> 00:19:48,497
would have tried to
be inappropriate.
423
00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:50,665
If something happened
with my mother,
424
00:19:50,689 --> 00:19:53,794
I tend to think that my
dad probably asked her to
425
00:19:53,818 --> 00:19:57,422
do some things that she
never would have done,
426
00:19:57,446 --> 00:20:00,550
just for his own
whatever pleasure.
427
00:20:00,574 --> 00:20:05,222
She was what, 16 - if -
whenever they got married.
428
00:20:05,246 --> 00:20:08,100
So, I mean, she was
very, very young.
429
00:20:08,124 --> 00:20:11,395
When Robin is 15 years old,
her half-sister,
430
00:20:11,419 --> 00:20:14,022
Jo Lynn,
Grizzly's other daughter,
431
00:20:14,046 --> 00:20:16,400
pays her an unexpected visit.
432
00:20:16,424 --> 00:20:18,151
She came, she picked me up and,
433
00:20:18,175 --> 00:20:20,278
we went out, we went shopping.
434
00:20:20,302 --> 00:20:23,407
And it, to me, it seemed
like there was just,
435
00:20:23,431 --> 00:20:26,159
there was something that she
was wanting to tell me
436
00:20:26,183 --> 00:20:28,787
or talk to me about,
or ask me, or...
437
00:20:28,811 --> 00:20:31,706
She was just asking
quite a few questions.
438
00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:34,251
Her main thing was,
do I feel safe?
439
00:20:34,275 --> 00:20:36,336
Do I feel comfortable?
440
00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:40,006
I think she wanted to know if,
441
00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:43,009
if I had gone through the
same thing because there was
442
00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:46,763
no doubt in my mind that the
same thing happened to her.
443
00:20:46,787 --> 00:20:49,141
I don't doubt it, to this day.
444
00:20:49,165 --> 00:20:52,561
It just seemed like there was
an awful lot on her mind.
445
00:20:52,585 --> 00:20:54,521
And then, it was about
2 weeks later
446
00:20:54,545 --> 00:20:56,690
when she was kidnapped.
447
00:20:56,714 --> 00:20:59,133
♪
448
00:21:04,472 --> 00:21:08,827
♪
449
00:21:08,851 --> 00:21:12,914
Richard and Mike and I were
at a roller-skating rink.
450
00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:15,041
We had gone over there,
gone skating.
451
00:21:15,065 --> 00:21:18,253
And, they came over
the intercom and said,
452
00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,922
"Robin, Mike, Richard,
the Smith family."
453
00:21:20,946 --> 00:21:22,924
We got a phone call.
454
00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:24,092
It was dad, and he
told me, he said,
455
00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:26,720
"You need to get home.
Get home immediately."
456
00:21:26,744 --> 00:21:28,388
[Robin]
So, we got home.
457
00:21:28,412 --> 00:21:31,516
Dad left a note in
the house that said
458
00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:34,686
Jo Lynn had been kidnapped.
459
00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:37,063
I thought it was kind of crazy
at first because I was like,
460
00:21:37,087 --> 00:21:38,690
how does he know
she's been kidnapped?
461
00:21:38,714 --> 00:21:40,233
Was there a ransom or...
462
00:21:40,257 --> 00:21:41,610
what was going on?
463
00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:44,362
Richard put his
hand through the wall.
464
00:21:44,386 --> 00:21:47,657
I busted.
And I totally lost it.
465
00:21:47,681 --> 00:21:50,410
They were very close,
Richard and Jo Lynn.
466
00:21:50,434 --> 00:21:52,412
Closer than any of us.
467
00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:53,830
Somebody has hurt my sister.
468
00:21:53,854 --> 00:21:56,249
I need to find out
what my next step is.
469
00:21:56,273 --> 00:21:58,043
I couldn't understand why
somebody'd want to kidnap
470
00:21:58,067 --> 00:22:00,962
somebody that was so sweet.
She never hurt nobody.
471
00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:02,672
She had no intentions
of hurting nobody.
472
00:22:02,696 --> 00:22:05,050
She just wanted to
live a happy, free life.
473
00:22:05,074 --> 00:22:06,760
And she was finally happy.
474
00:22:06,784 --> 00:22:09,638
She had a kid, that
mission was accomplished.
475
00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:11,890
It was a quiet, peaceful
trailer park she was living in.
476
00:22:11,914 --> 00:22:15,644
She finally had it going on,
and then this.
477
00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:18,230
When you talk about
murder, kidnapping,
478
00:22:18,254 --> 00:22:20,273
armed robbery,
something like that,
479
00:22:20,297 --> 00:22:21,816
no, we, we just
didn't have that.
480
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,402
That just wasn't
in Tatum, Texas.
481
00:22:24,426 --> 00:22:26,488
My name's Carl Gage.
My nickname's Buzz.
482
00:22:26,512 --> 00:22:28,073
I've been Buzz all my life.
483
00:22:28,097 --> 00:22:31,076
I'm 69 years old and in 1979,
484
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:35,413
I was 28 and I was
Chief of Police at Tatum, Texas.
485
00:22:35,437 --> 00:22:37,374
As I remember,
just on routine patrol
486
00:22:37,398 --> 00:22:40,043
one particular morning and,
the manager from the
487
00:22:40,067 --> 00:22:42,212
Cherry Hill mobile home park
flagged me down.
488
00:22:42,236 --> 00:22:43,588
I knew him, and he said,
489
00:22:43,612 --> 00:22:45,715
"I had a kidnapping out here
at the trailer park."
490
00:22:45,739 --> 00:22:49,594
Jo Lynn was there
with little Ted, her baby.
491
00:22:49,618 --> 00:22:53,265
They grabbed her and
pulled her out and
492
00:22:53,289 --> 00:22:56,643
threw her in this car,
and took off.
493
00:22:56,667 --> 00:22:59,437
Jo Lynn was 5'10,
probably weighed 200.
494
00:22:59,461 --> 00:23:02,190
You ain't gonna take
her down by yourself.
495
00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:05,193
Me and her used to wrestle,
and she's tough.
496
00:23:05,217 --> 00:23:09,197
So, there ain't no way one
person loaded her in that car.
497
00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:11,074
Went right to it pretty quick
and got out there and,
498
00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:12,993
the door's open.
499
00:23:13,017 --> 00:23:14,494
Of course, we hear
something in the house.
500
00:23:14,518 --> 00:23:15,745
- SFX: (baby crying)
- And I go...
501
00:23:15,769 --> 00:23:16,913
"What's that?"
He said, "Well,
502
00:23:16,937 --> 00:23:18,748
her baby's in there."
503
00:23:18,772 --> 00:23:21,126
The baby's fine,
wasn't no problem.
504
00:23:21,150 --> 00:23:22,877
Then the husband got there.
505
00:23:22,901 --> 00:23:26,256
We got in and I noticed some
letters on the little table
506
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,092
there by the door and I said,
"What are these?
507
00:23:29,116 --> 00:23:30,552
They're addressed to
your wife."
508
00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:32,220
He said, "That's my ex-wife.
509
00:23:32,244 --> 00:23:35,724
She would send
threatening letters to her."
510
00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:37,809
With the menacing
letters as evidence,
511
00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:40,270
authority's number one
suspect becomes
512
00:23:40,294 --> 00:23:44,774
Faelyn Rogers, the ex-wife
of Jo Lynn's husband.
513
00:23:44,798 --> 00:23:47,986
Investigators discover
incriminating evidence in
514
00:23:48,010 --> 00:23:50,947
Faelyn's car, and she
eventually confesses
515
00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:54,075
to the kidnapping, but she
claims Jo Lynn escaped
516
00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:56,369
shortly after the abduction.
517
00:23:56,393 --> 00:23:57,996
Searching, oh, lord have mercy,
518
00:23:58,020 --> 00:23:59,706
we had search parties out.
519
00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:01,958
We had helicopters,
we had horses,
520
00:24:01,982 --> 00:24:04,628
we had motorcycles,
we had people on foot.
521
00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:08,214
I had a psychic call me.
She came down.
522
00:24:08,238 --> 00:24:10,133
"I think I can help you out.
523
00:24:10,157 --> 00:24:13,553
I think I'm getting
messages from Jo Lynn."
524
00:24:13,577 --> 00:24:16,931
She was given a personal
possession of Jo Lynn's.
525
00:24:16,955 --> 00:24:20,977
She was saying,
"It's just, it's dark.
526
00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:23,188
Maybe like a
well or something."
527
00:24:23,212 --> 00:24:25,398
Let's starts looking
for abandoned wells.
528
00:24:25,422 --> 00:24:27,484
And we got information on a
couple of 'em that had been
529
00:24:27,508 --> 00:24:29,402
covered or filled in so,
we went out,
530
00:24:29,426 --> 00:24:33,740
we checked them.
We never found a body.
531
00:24:33,764 --> 00:24:36,409
Jo Lynn's body is
never recovered,
532
00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:38,912
making a murder
charge impossible.
533
00:24:38,936 --> 00:24:41,498
Faelyn is brought to
court indicted on the lesser
534
00:24:41,522 --> 00:24:46,044
charge of kidnapping and the
Smith family is devastated.
535
00:24:46,068 --> 00:24:47,879
I think that's probably the
first time my father
536
00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:49,673
ever missed a wrestling match,
537
00:24:49,697 --> 00:24:51,549
was when my sister
was kidnapped.
538
00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:55,512
He went to the trial.
I didn't go to the trial.
539
00:24:55,536 --> 00:24:59,516
I was medicating myself,
trying to pass out every day.
540
00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:02,852
The only information we got
was through dad because
541
00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:05,397
we weren't allowed
to go to court,
542
00:25:05,421 --> 00:25:07,607
and he just said, "No,
you're not going to court."
543
00:25:07,631 --> 00:25:09,567
And that was that.
544
00:25:09,591 --> 00:25:12,362
It's amazing that the
evidence was overwhelming,
545
00:25:12,386 --> 00:25:16,616
but without the body and
without somebody to say,
546
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,953
"I saw her kill her"...
547
00:25:19,977 --> 00:25:22,122
She got convicted of
aggravated kidnapping,
548
00:25:22,146 --> 00:25:24,749
got 30 years.
I think she served 7.
549
00:25:24,773 --> 00:25:27,210
Dad used to carry a
piano string in his hand.
550
00:25:27,234 --> 00:25:29,087
You'd take a piano string
and two pieces of wood and
551
00:25:29,111 --> 00:25:30,213
hold it in your hand.
552
00:25:30,237 --> 00:25:31,923
He was hoping to get
close enough to her,
553
00:25:31,947 --> 00:25:34,342
supposedly, is what I been told,
554
00:25:34,366 --> 00:25:36,720
he was wanting to get close
enough to her to where
555
00:25:36,744 --> 00:25:39,472
he could be able to do that,
and it would kill her.
556
00:25:39,496 --> 00:25:42,016
I was told that it was
4 sheriffs in front,
557
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,019
in back, and on the sides
because dad was so large.
558
00:25:45,043 --> 00:25:46,855
And they knew with
a man that large,
559
00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:52,777
once he was mad, it was
gonna be hell to pay.
560
00:25:52,801 --> 00:25:54,779
Well, they say
murder's hard to prove.
561
00:25:54,803 --> 00:25:56,781
How can you prove murder?
Go back to the story.
562
00:25:56,805 --> 00:26:00,785
She works at a place
that has an incinerator.
563
00:26:00,809 --> 00:26:03,163
I believe that that's
where they took her.
564
00:26:03,187 --> 00:26:04,914
Whether she was
conscious, unconscious,
565
00:26:04,938 --> 00:26:06,082
or even dead.
566
00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:08,168
I think she found her
way to the incinerator.
567
00:26:08,192 --> 00:26:12,589
And there's no evidence,
it's all gone.
568
00:26:12,613 --> 00:26:14,382
[Robin] I just started
thinking that,
569
00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:16,551
who would have the
most to lose here?
570
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:19,721
What's the reason
to get rid of her?
571
00:26:19,745 --> 00:26:21,723
I thought, well, I mean, really
572
00:26:21,747 --> 00:26:24,517
somebody who's got a lot to
lose would be dad.
573
00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:26,811
If she was gonna
expose him, you know,
574
00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:28,855
with the young
girls and, you know,
575
00:26:28,879 --> 00:26:30,899
it would cost him his,
his career and,
576
00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:33,485
so yeah, I kind
of question that.
577
00:26:33,509 --> 00:26:36,738
Richard really wanted to go
to Unsolved Mysteries and
578
00:26:36,762 --> 00:26:39,157
dad actually told him
he didn't want him to.
579
00:26:39,181 --> 00:26:41,117
We're going, "Why in the
world wouldn't you want that?
580
00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:44,329
They solve, they
actually solve murders."
581
00:26:44,353 --> 00:26:45,830
Dad was against it.
582
00:26:45,854 --> 00:26:49,459
So, you know, that throws
in more suspicion there.
583
00:26:49,483 --> 00:26:50,794
[Richard] Yeah,
there's a wild thought.
584
00:26:50,818 --> 00:26:52,253
Did dad have
something to do with it?
585
00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:54,631
Was he involved?
I don't know.
586
00:26:54,655 --> 00:26:56,424
You could bring up a
thousand questions
587
00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:58,009
on the whole ordeal.
588
00:26:58,033 --> 00:26:59,636
I wish I could say,
"Man, I walked in there,
589
00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:02,305
I seen my dad, he was
just bawling his eyes out.
590
00:27:02,329 --> 00:27:04,349
It tore him to shreds."
591
00:27:04,373 --> 00:27:05,600
I never saw it.
592
00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:07,918
♪
593
00:27:12,714 --> 00:27:15,235
Although a conviction is
made for the kidnapping of
594
00:27:15,259 --> 00:27:18,321
Jo Lynn Smith, Jake
"The Snake" Roberts and
595
00:27:18,345 --> 00:27:20,448
his siblings struggle
to cope with the
596
00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:22,516
tragic loss of their sister.
597
00:27:31,108 --> 00:27:33,461
Oh, yeah, the hate.
598
00:27:33,485 --> 00:27:36,256
I, I use the hate a lot, man.
599
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,633
Thank you, dad.
(spits)
600
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:40,927
The whole Snake character
was made because
601
00:27:40,951 --> 00:27:43,471
I didn't want people
looking at me.
602
00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:45,390
Look at the snake bag,
don't look at me.
603
00:27:45,414 --> 00:27:47,851
Don't ask me questions,
look at the snake bag.
604
00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:50,228
And everybody fears that,
everybody knows that.
605
00:27:50,252 --> 00:27:52,063
Kids loved it because
mom and dad went,
606
00:27:52,087 --> 00:27:53,314
"Oh, my god, a snake!"
607
00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:55,316
And they loved seeing
mom and dad do that,
608
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:59,612
you know, so, therefore,
they loved Jake "The Snake".
609
00:27:59,636 --> 00:28:02,198
Crazy people.
610
00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:05,535
As Jake's stardom continues
to reach new heights,
611
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,662
Robin seizes the opportunity
612
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:09,789
to pursue a career in wrestling.
613
00:28:09,813 --> 00:28:14,836
I went to North Carolina and
trained with Nelson Royal who...
614
00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:17,130
was a fabulous wrestler and...
615
00:28:17,154 --> 00:28:18,840
a legend.
616
00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:22,010
And Nelson trained her
like one of the guys.
617
00:28:22,034 --> 00:28:24,846
Wow, okay.
618
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:26,556
I wanted to change things.
619
00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:31,477
I wanted the girls' matches
to be just as exciting,
620
00:28:31,501 --> 00:28:33,771
you know, if they could,
as the guys'.
621
00:28:33,795 --> 00:28:35,148
I mean, why not?
622
00:28:35,172 --> 00:28:37,191
When Robin
completes her training,
623
00:28:37,215 --> 00:28:39,611
she uses her father's
connections to show off
624
00:28:39,635 --> 00:28:43,781
her skills at a WWF
TV taping, and she catches
625
00:28:43,805 --> 00:28:47,452
the attention of top promoter,
Vince McMahon.
626
00:28:47,476 --> 00:28:49,996
So, they put me on a
dark match with Sherri.
627
00:28:50,020 --> 00:28:51,456
I couldn't tell you
how long it lasted.
628
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,082
I mean, it was, it's a complete,
629
00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:54,751
total blur, to this day.
630
00:28:54,775 --> 00:28:57,629
I have no idea what happened.
631
00:28:57,653 --> 00:28:59,756
All I know is
that when I got out,
632
00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:02,175
Mr. McMahon had said,
"Oh, my, my god,
633
00:29:02,199 --> 00:29:04,010
she throws a
punch like a guy."
634
00:29:04,034 --> 00:29:06,471
And, I was like, cool, alright.
635
00:29:06,495 --> 00:29:08,097
And then, the next thing I know,
636
00:29:08,121 --> 00:29:11,392
I get the package in the
mail at my house that is
637
00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:14,103
airline tickets and
schedule and all that,
638
00:29:14,127 --> 00:29:15,897
and I was like, wow.
639
00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:18,650
You know, it was a,
it was a total surprise.
640
00:29:18,674 --> 00:29:20,068
...don't count your
chickens before they...
641
00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:22,362
there's a bulldog
off the top rope!
642
00:29:22,386 --> 00:29:25,573
A bulldog!
Turns her over!
643
00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:28,284
- She got her!
- No, I don't believe it!
644
00:29:28,308 --> 00:29:29,911
(cheering)
645
00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:32,914
History has been made,
here in Paris, France!
646
00:29:32,938 --> 00:29:35,792
At the time,
they had Grizz, Sam,
647
00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:38,252
Robin, and Jake were all working
648
00:29:38,276 --> 00:29:41,381
for the WWE at the time.
649
00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:44,634
In wrestling, the best
compliment that
650
00:29:44,658 --> 00:29:46,719
you can be given is that
somebody would say,
651
00:29:46,743 --> 00:29:49,389
"You're a hell of a hand."
You're a good worker.
652
00:29:49,413 --> 00:29:53,726
That means that you can not
only perform pro wrestling
653
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:55,603
at a high level, but
you can do it
654
00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:57,188
without hurting your opponent.
655
00:29:57,212 --> 00:29:59,482
And, Sam Houston was the
best worker in the family.
656
00:29:59,506 --> 00:30:00,650
He was the lightest.
657
00:30:00,674 --> 00:30:03,444
He was actually too light,
he was painfully thin.
658
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:06,155
And that was what held him
back from being used
659
00:30:06,179 --> 00:30:08,241
in a more prominent position.
660
00:30:08,265 --> 00:30:10,159
Especially in the
bigger territories,
661
00:30:10,183 --> 00:30:13,871
Crocket Promotions, the NWA...
662
00:30:13,895 --> 00:30:15,456
[Commentary]
Poor Sam Houston.
663
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,874
Unfortunately, Mike was like
664
00:30:16,898 --> 00:30:18,751
a lot of the other wrestlers.
665
00:30:18,775 --> 00:30:20,461
He got to making
good money and stuff,
666
00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:22,255
was doing good, and then...
667
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:23,697
went to drinking.
668
00:30:27,576 --> 00:30:30,847
(sighs) Um...
669
00:30:30,871 --> 00:30:33,307
listen... whenever he told
my dad that we were
670
00:30:33,331 --> 00:30:38,646
getting married, he had
32 Crown and Cokes.
671
00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:40,398
32.
672
00:30:40,422 --> 00:30:42,942
It was amazing how much
he could drink and
673
00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:44,593
still be able to walk.
674
00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:50,616
At the time, I thought I would
love him enough that
675
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,368
it would get better and
it wouldn't matter and
676
00:30:52,392 --> 00:30:54,662
that my love could
conquer all, and...
677
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,539
it didn't.
678
00:30:56,563 --> 00:30:58,499
I just realized
that it wasn't me.
679
00:30:58,523 --> 00:31:00,752
There was nothing
I could have done.
680
00:31:00,776 --> 00:31:02,754
Addictive personality
must run through
681
00:31:02,778 --> 00:31:06,215
our entire family.
I mean, seriously.
682
00:31:06,239 --> 00:31:10,428
Because they're very
strong addictions.
683
00:31:10,452 --> 00:31:14,140
You have to find
ways to put that
684
00:31:14,164 --> 00:31:19,687
self-respect back into yourself.
685
00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:22,023
After years of
living on her own,
686
00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:25,693
Robin gets a surprise visit
from her father, Grizzly.
687
00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:29,030
The bell rings and,
I go to open it up and
688
00:31:29,054 --> 00:31:30,823
I see him standing there.
689
00:31:30,847 --> 00:31:34,285
And, right by his side,
this little girl,
690
00:31:34,309 --> 00:31:36,454
about 9 years old.
691
00:31:36,478 --> 00:31:38,539
♪
692
00:31:38,563 --> 00:31:40,958
I could tell you,
the colour, everything
693
00:31:40,982 --> 00:31:44,712
just drained from my body and
694
00:31:44,736 --> 00:31:48,132
I knew for sure this girl
was in trouble.
695
00:31:48,156 --> 00:31:51,928
So, he comes in and
the first thing he says,
696
00:31:51,952 --> 00:31:54,263
"Can you make her a daiquiri?
697
00:31:54,287 --> 00:31:56,057
Do you have the stuff
to make her a daiquiri?
698
00:31:56,081 --> 00:31:57,767
She wants to try daiquiris."
699
00:31:57,791 --> 00:32:00,520
It took everything just
not to absolutely
700
00:32:00,544 --> 00:32:03,272
come apart and come unglued.
701
00:32:03,296 --> 00:32:05,650
And, I said, "No, I don't."
702
00:32:05,674 --> 00:32:09,320
Shortly after, he went to
the back and he went to bed.
703
00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:10,905
I stayed up with her all night.
704
00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:12,198
We never went to sleep.
705
00:32:12,222 --> 00:32:14,283
And, I wanted to ask
questions and
706
00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:16,869
I knew what questions to ask.
I said, you know,
707
00:32:16,893 --> 00:32:19,580
"Sometimes, does he pull off
to the side of the road and
708
00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:22,542
want to give you a kiss?"
And she said, "Yeah."
709
00:32:22,566 --> 00:32:25,169
It didn't scare her,
but, I mean,
710
00:32:25,193 --> 00:32:28,506
she was like, "But yeah,
it makes me uncomfortable."
711
00:32:28,530 --> 00:32:31,217
He got up the next morning,
got all his things together
712
00:32:31,241 --> 00:32:33,553
and said, "Come on,
we gotta go," and I said,
713
00:32:33,577 --> 00:32:36,597
"You're gonna go, but
she's not going anywhere.
714
00:32:36,621 --> 00:32:38,391
She's staying right here."
715
00:32:38,415 --> 00:32:41,477
I was not letting
this girl go anywhere.
716
00:32:41,501 --> 00:32:44,438
I think that told him
everything he needed to know
717
00:32:44,462 --> 00:32:46,023
about how I felt.
718
00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:48,925
♪
719
00:32:54,055 --> 00:32:56,868
Reeling from the traumas
endured in their adolescence,
720
00:32:56,892 --> 00:32:58,161
Jake, Robin, and Sam
721
00:32:58,185 --> 00:33:01,080
each battle addiction
into adulthood.
722
00:33:01,104 --> 00:33:03,583
But for Sam, the
consequences become
723
00:33:03,607 --> 00:33:05,918
a matter of life or death.
724
00:33:05,942 --> 00:33:08,212
Sam Houston had the
all-time Texas state record
725
00:33:08,236 --> 00:33:11,257
for most DUI offenses.
726
00:33:11,281 --> 00:33:15,511
And, the reason why that he
was not jailed for them long
727
00:33:15,535 --> 00:33:18,347
before that he was, was
because Grizzly Smith had
728
00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:21,601
been such a big name and
such an important person,
729
00:33:21,625 --> 00:33:25,021
and knew so many people in
the state of Texas over all
730
00:33:25,045 --> 00:33:26,898
those years and etcetera,
that he was able to
731
00:33:26,922 --> 00:33:28,024
get him out of it.
732
00:33:28,048 --> 00:33:30,818
He never spent more than a
day or two in jail before.
733
00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:32,111
Grizz was right there
and got him out
734
00:33:32,135 --> 00:33:33,654
'cause he knew somebody.
735
00:33:33,678 --> 00:33:35,656
And Grizz just knew everybody,
736
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,016
and I think he knew
something about everybody.
737
00:33:44,564 --> 00:33:47,251
I really don't know 'cause,
I mean,
738
00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:50,213
everything I was ever
charged with was only first,
739
00:33:50,237 --> 00:33:53,674
or first offense, or I think...
And I got a second offense.
740
00:33:53,698 --> 00:33:56,802
It was basically always a
fine that I'd have to pay and,
741
00:33:56,826 --> 00:33:58,846
you know, community service.
742
00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:01,349
Any time I was doing any,
anything like that,
743
00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:02,725
any kind of community service,
744
00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:04,227
I always gave it my all.
745
00:34:04,251 --> 00:34:09,232
I washed 7 firetrucks one day
for the parade, you know.
746
00:34:09,256 --> 00:34:12,360
After years of shocking
repeat offenses and
747
00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:16,072
lenient punishments,
Sam's luck has run out.
748
00:34:16,096 --> 00:34:18,908
Grizzly is unable to
come to his rescue,
749
00:34:18,932 --> 00:34:22,203
and Sam is ultimately
sent to prison.
750
00:34:22,227 --> 00:34:25,498
If they caught you doing
something 20-somthing times,
751
00:34:25,522 --> 00:34:29,585
how many times have
you really done it? Right?
752
00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:31,462
The Mothers Against
Drunk Driving had gotten
753
00:34:31,486 --> 00:34:34,799
his record, and had seen,
like, all the judges and
754
00:34:34,823 --> 00:34:38,427
all the magistrates that
had gotten Sam off.
755
00:34:38,451 --> 00:34:41,389
Finally, he did
have to go to jail.
756
00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:43,683
They're telling me 30 years.
757
00:34:43,707 --> 00:34:46,686
I, I was at the end of my rope.
758
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:49,939
So, two days, January the 12th,
759
00:34:49,963 --> 00:34:52,608
two days, a Saturday night...
760
00:34:52,632 --> 00:34:56,404
I knew I had to break
my neck when I jumped.
761
00:34:56,428 --> 00:35:00,366
I said, "God, only
you can stop this."
762
00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:03,828
And... and I jumped.
763
00:35:03,852 --> 00:35:07,748
I'm gonna tell y'all, I hit
the ground with such force.
764
00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:13,087
The soles of my feet
were bruised for weeks.
765
00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:17,591
I know how to tie a knot.
These knots broke.
766
00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:21,095
Meanwhile, Jake spirals
deeper into new depths of
767
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,098
drug and alcohol
fueled addictions.
768
00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:25,433
I'm not gonna sugar coat this.
769
00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:27,143
A lot of people in
professional wrestling,
770
00:35:27,167 --> 00:35:28,894
just like a lot of people
in professional sports,
771
00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:30,313
a lot of people in rock 'n roll,
772
00:35:30,337 --> 00:35:32,481
have had bad personal habits.
773
00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:37,111
Having said that,
Jake's were stunning.
774
00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:38,863
The one guy that
you would think,
775
00:35:38,887 --> 00:35:40,573
this guy's not gonna make it,
776
00:35:40,597 --> 00:35:43,951
and somehow,
he always did, and still has,
777
00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:46,454
he was like the Keith
Richards of pro wrestling.
778
00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:48,914
The most important
thing in my life
779
00:35:48,938 --> 00:35:50,750
for 20 years was cocaine.
780
00:35:50,774 --> 00:35:52,710
Above all things.
781
00:35:52,734 --> 00:35:56,422
Above sex, above money,
above children,
782
00:35:56,446 --> 00:35:59,842
above wives, above mama,
above everything.
783
00:35:59,866 --> 00:36:03,679
Cocaine had to be number one.
784
00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:06,265
That is really messed up.
785
00:36:06,289 --> 00:36:07,850
I will tell you this.
786
00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:10,519
Being in the limelight
gets you things that
787
00:36:10,543 --> 00:36:14,148
you think you want or you need.
Because when you do drugs,
788
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:17,360
your idea of a good time
changes, brother,
789
00:36:17,384 --> 00:36:19,320
and you get kind of freaky.
790
00:36:19,344 --> 00:36:20,946
♪
791
00:36:20,970 --> 00:36:23,240
You know, at first
it was one girl.
792
00:36:23,264 --> 00:36:25,993
Then it was two girls,
and then it was three girls
793
00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:28,871
doing this with a rabbit and
a dog and donkey and clown.
794
00:36:28,895 --> 00:36:30,373
(laughs) Having fun.
795
00:36:30,397 --> 00:36:32,333
Sitting on the back of a chair
with a lamp on my head.
796
00:36:32,357 --> 00:36:35,753
Yeah, it gets stupid.
797
00:36:35,777 --> 00:36:39,256
I guess one of the biggest
lows in Jake's career was
798
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,300
the Heroes of Wrestling
Pay Per View.
799
00:36:41,324 --> 00:36:46,931
And, this is story number
747,000 of Jake Roberts
800
00:36:46,955 --> 00:36:49,725
showing up in no condition
to perform or actually to
801
00:36:49,749 --> 00:36:51,811
function as a human being.
802
00:36:51,835 --> 00:36:54,647
A lot of the guys that night
put in bad performances just
803
00:36:54,671 --> 00:36:56,565
because they were out of
shape our past their prime,
804
00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:58,567
but with Jake,
he was legitimately
805
00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:00,736
on planet Neptune.
806
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,447
Everybody knew that
Jake was not right.
807
00:37:03,471 --> 00:37:07,201
And, he had a snake, which
became a phallic symbol.
808
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:10,621
And, it was a 10-year period
or more there
809
00:37:10,645 --> 00:37:13,207
where that more often than not,
810
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:15,376
if Jake Roberts made
a public appearance,
811
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,378
you would hear about
Jake Roberts
812
00:37:17,402 --> 00:37:20,131
doing something he
shouldn't do in public.
813
00:37:20,155 --> 00:37:23,867
I'm a junkie.
I'm a liar, I'm a thief.
814
00:37:26,411 --> 00:37:27,763
(exhales sharply)
815
00:37:27,787 --> 00:37:30,057
Do you know how much
self-hate is involved
816
00:37:30,081 --> 00:37:31,725
in admitting that?
817
00:37:31,749 --> 00:37:33,602
How I had to look at
myself in the mirror?
818
00:37:33,626 --> 00:37:37,565
I took all the mirrors down.
The ones I didn't, I broke.
819
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:40,568
Within years of the
WWF phasing out their
820
00:37:40,592 --> 00:37:44,238
women's division, Robin ends
her career as a wrestler and
821
00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:48,409
eventually hits her own rock
bottom with alcohol abuse.
822
00:37:48,433 --> 00:37:50,202
Drinking was never a problem.
823
00:37:50,226 --> 00:37:53,622
I did it really, really well.
824
00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:55,499
I was better than just
about anybody at it.
825
00:37:55,523 --> 00:37:58,169
It wasn't necessarily
because of...
826
00:37:58,193 --> 00:38:02,047
of... not working as much.
827
00:38:02,071 --> 00:38:04,800
I think that had
more to do with from,
828
00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:09,013
from my childhood.
829
00:38:09,037 --> 00:38:13,225
You know, unfortunately,
the result of that is addiction
830
00:38:13,249 --> 00:38:16,103
and, even with that,
I realized that
831
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:17,646
it wasn't getting me anywhere.
832
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:21,901
And, you know, my father
ruined my childhood and so,
833
00:38:21,925 --> 00:38:24,445
I'll be damned if he
ruins the rest of my life.
834
00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:27,472
♪
835
00:38:33,102 --> 00:38:36,790
On June 12, 2010,
Grizzly Smith dies from
836
00:38:36,814 --> 00:38:39,752
complications due to
Alzheimer's disease.
837
00:38:39,776 --> 00:38:42,213
He was 77 years old.
838
00:38:42,237 --> 00:38:44,089
His biological son, Richard,
839
00:38:44,113 --> 00:38:45,883
who was given up for adoption,
840
00:38:45,907 --> 00:38:49,136
would be Grizzly's
sole caretaker until the end.
841
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,475
♪
842
00:38:54,499 --> 00:38:56,101
I, ah...
843
00:38:56,125 --> 00:38:58,378
I got there as quick as I could.
844
00:39:00,588 --> 00:39:03,150
Dad had passed.
845
00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:04,860
He...
846
00:39:04,884 --> 00:39:11,534
♪
847
00:39:11,558 --> 00:39:13,786
He had just passed.
848
00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:17,248
♪
849
00:39:17,272 --> 00:39:19,166
He died while I was in prison.
850
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:20,626
I'm in the worst
place in the world,
851
00:39:20,650 --> 00:39:24,296
I just got the most devastating
news in the world.
852
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,673
Well, he's got a...
853
00:39:25,697 --> 00:39:27,216
he's got a lot of
good qualities.
854
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:33,347
And, he was born out of
love and I still love him.
855
00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:36,308
I thought that with him
passing I wouldn't
856
00:39:36,332 --> 00:39:38,686
have to think of some
things anymore.
857
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:42,523
♪
858
00:39:42,547 --> 00:39:44,841
But memories don't
go away that easily.
859
00:39:51,723 --> 00:39:54,994
No, no.
Hell, no.
860
00:39:55,018 --> 00:39:57,079
I don't think he thought, no.
861
00:39:57,103 --> 00:39:59,248
I don't think he thought
he did anything wrong.
862
00:39:59,272 --> 00:40:02,751
You know, there was
never any kind of serious
863
00:40:02,775 --> 00:40:08,257
conversation, apologies,
anything like that.
864
00:40:08,281 --> 00:40:11,367
I think he thought everything
was just, just fine.
865
00:40:17,373 --> 00:40:19,643
A few years ago, we finally did.
866
00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:21,604
I, I can't imagine.
867
00:40:21,628 --> 00:40:24,106
I can't imagine how
devastating that would,
868
00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:25,774
could be to somebody.
869
00:40:25,798 --> 00:40:27,484
You know, and,
and Robin, I guess,
870
00:40:27,508 --> 00:40:30,279
like my mom, you know,
they knew as a child
871
00:40:30,303 --> 00:40:33,449
growing up that my father
was Superman to me.
872
00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:36,535
And, they wouldn't do
anything to tarnish him
873
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:38,829
because they care
for me so much.
874
00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:40,998
Sam idolized his dad.
875
00:40:41,022 --> 00:40:43,208
He probably would have
forgiven his dad for it
876
00:40:43,232 --> 00:40:44,817
rather than helped his sister.
877
00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:51,842
He could make Sam believe
that it was Robin's fault.
878
00:40:51,866 --> 00:40:55,137
Or he could make Sam believe
that it was Jake's fault.
879
00:40:55,161 --> 00:40:59,308
It wasn't Grizz's fault, it
was somebody else's fault.
880
00:40:59,332 --> 00:41:01,769
I don't blame anybody at all
881
00:41:01,793 --> 00:41:05,022
for the lack of being together.
882
00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:08,275
That was all done
early on by dad.
883
00:41:08,299 --> 00:41:11,153
So, I mean, it, it's...
Nobody dropped the ball.
884
00:41:11,177 --> 00:41:12,988
It's not anybody's fault.
885
00:41:13,012 --> 00:41:14,948
It just, it was how it was.
886
00:41:14,972 --> 00:41:18,661
♪
887
00:41:18,685 --> 00:41:20,704
That's me and dad.
888
00:41:20,728 --> 00:41:23,707
I was probably 10.
889
00:41:23,731 --> 00:41:26,960
He never apologized for
giving me up for adoption.
890
00:41:26,984 --> 00:41:29,213
And I never asked for it.
891
00:41:29,237 --> 00:41:31,965
I have no complaints.
I mean, how can I complain?
892
00:41:31,989 --> 00:41:33,300
I'm the lucky one
out of the bunch,
893
00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:36,178
is the way I consider it.
894
00:41:36,202 --> 00:41:39,264
With Grizzly's death,
his children finally feel
895
00:41:39,288 --> 00:41:41,975
safe enough to open up
about their experiences
896
00:41:41,999 --> 00:41:43,519
from childhood,
897
00:41:43,543 --> 00:41:46,689
but their estrangement
still exists today.
898
00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:49,608
I think there's a certain
amount of hope that
899
00:41:49,632 --> 00:41:51,610
Robin and I could be friends.
900
00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:55,572
I respect her and I
love her very much.
901
00:41:55,596 --> 00:41:59,243
And it'd be nice
to have a sister.
902
00:41:59,267 --> 00:42:02,371
Yeah, I'd love to be close
with everybody, you know.
903
00:42:02,395 --> 00:42:03,872
I understand
though that, you know,
904
00:42:03,896 --> 00:42:06,542
we've all got like
different paths.
905
00:42:06,566 --> 00:42:09,503
Do I wish I could have spent
more time with my siblings?
906
00:42:09,527 --> 00:42:11,880
Yeah, it sounds good, yeah.
907
00:42:11,904 --> 00:42:13,340
I'd like to try.
908
00:42:13,364 --> 00:42:14,925
And after this, I mean,
there's a lot of thoughts
909
00:42:14,949 --> 00:42:19,054
going through my
mind right now. It's...
910
00:42:19,078 --> 00:42:21,640
maybe I gotta figure
out how to do that.
911
00:42:21,664 --> 00:42:23,934
Bridging out across.
912
00:42:23,958 --> 00:42:27,020
You know, I think this is
opening some communication.
913
00:42:27,044 --> 00:42:29,773
It might have a little to
do with bringing us
914
00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:32,067
a little bit closer in.
915
00:42:32,091 --> 00:42:34,528
I guess this is why I agreed
to go ahead and
916
00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:38,323
talk about it was that, I want
people to really know,
917
00:42:38,347 --> 00:42:40,617
it's very, very tough and
I would never say
918
00:42:40,641 --> 00:42:42,661
it's easy to get past it.
919
00:42:42,685 --> 00:42:45,038
I don't know that you
ever do get past it.
920
00:42:45,062 --> 00:42:47,916
But, you don't
have to stay in it.
921
00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:52,045
You can be successful,
you can overcome it.
922
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:53,839
And for God sakes,
if it's something
923
00:42:53,863 --> 00:42:55,132
you're going through now,
924
00:42:55,156 --> 00:42:57,426
if anybody's going
through it now,
925
00:42:57,450 --> 00:43:00,345
tell somebody.
You've got to tell somebody.
926
00:43:00,369 --> 00:43:03,891
It will not stop.
You have to tell somebody.
927
00:43:03,915 --> 00:43:06,643
And, and you will get help.
928
00:43:06,667 --> 00:43:08,270
What I want to tell you is this:
929
00:43:08,294 --> 00:43:10,314
you can't glorify what
happened to me.
930
00:43:10,338 --> 00:43:12,065
But I ain't the only one.
931
00:43:12,089 --> 00:43:14,902
There's millions of
other kids that are
932
00:43:14,926 --> 00:43:19,114
going through the same
thing as I speak.
933
00:43:19,138 --> 00:43:22,159
If you're one of those kids...
934
00:43:22,183 --> 00:43:25,537
Run! Run like the wind.
935
00:43:25,561 --> 00:43:28,290
Go to the police,
go to your pastor,
936
00:43:28,314 --> 00:43:31,710
go to the... just go.
937
00:43:31,734 --> 00:43:35,047
And if it's already
happened to you,
938
00:43:35,071 --> 00:43:37,925
you gotta get help.
939
00:43:37,949 --> 00:43:42,095
I'm 65 now, and I'm
not ashamed anymore.
940
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,223
Still a little angry at times,
941
00:43:44,247 --> 00:43:46,600
but not so angry that
I have to medicate it.
942
00:43:46,624 --> 00:43:49,102
I've been sober
now for 10 years.
943
00:43:49,126 --> 00:43:51,605
10 years, woo.
944
00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:55,651
I did it.
I made it all the way back.
945
00:43:55,675 --> 00:43:59,696
The bottom line is,
never, ever...
946
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:02,699
ever give up.
947
00:44:02,723 --> 00:44:07,979
♪